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- W1520787879 abstract "The last words in the Lysis are eloquent enough and induce us, at first, to feel disappointed: «what a friend is, we have not yet succeeded in discoveringni (O6nco 6E 0.61 iktiv O cpiho~ oioi t e Eyevoyeea EEeug~iv: 223b7-8). Just before these words, after Socrates' summary of what had been said in that part of the dialogue (a summary like those that orators used to pronounce before tribunals), we hear from Socrates' own mouth, and in just as conclusive a way: «If none of these is a friend, 1 am at a loss for anything further to say» (ei pq6Ev to6tov rpihov Eativ, Eyh pEv oGniti Exco t i AEyco: 222e6-7). The failure of the quest seems evident enough. Accordingly, many scholars have reached a definitive conclusion: the Lysis is a dialogue without an outcome. The aporia, to which we have been led by the different examinations to which the question about friendship asked to Menexenus has been subjected, is finally witnessed in 223b7-8. At the beginning of his conversation with Menexenus, when the latter was on his way back after having helped in a religious ceremony, Socrates asked him this question following Lysis' request: «When one person loves another, which of the two becomes a friend of the other, the loving of the loved, or the loved of the loving? Or is there no difference?» (EnaiGav ti5 tiva cp~hq, notego5 not6gou cpihoc yiyvetct~, O q~A6v toU cpihoupivou $ O cpihoUp~v05 toV cpihof~vto~ oO6Ev G~acpE~ai; 212a8-bl). With this question starts that part of the dialogue whose direct aim is to answer with arguments the question about friendship. However, at the end of the dia-" @default.
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- W1520787879 title "Plato's Lysis: Aporia and Dialectic Logoi friendship realized all througouht the Dialogue" @default.
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